The ultimate dev skill is Integration Testing – Podcast interview with Internet of Bugs [Podcast #209]

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The ultimate dev skill is Integration Testing – Podcast interview with Internet of Bugs [Podcast #209]
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Today Quincy Larson interviews Carl Brown, who runs the Internet of Bugs YouTube channel and has worked as a dev at Amazon, IBM, Sun Microsystems, and startups for over 37 years. We talk about: The hype versus the utility in LLMs and agent code generation tools Why you might want to target developer jobs at smaller companies, and how these differ from "big tech" How everyone will face agism eventually. Carl argues that a consulting career is a great escape hatch. Watch the podcast on the freeCodeCamp.org YouTube channel or listen on your favorite podcast app. Links from our discussion: My interview with Stack Overflow founder Joel Spolsky whom we discuss: https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/trello-stack-overflow-founder-joel-spolsky-podcast-interview/ Quincy's free book "How to learn to code and get a developer job": https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/learn-to-code-book/ Ted Chiang "ChatGPT Is a Blurry JPEG of the Web" article Carl mentions: https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/chatgpt-is-a-blurry-jpeg-of-the-web The Karpathy on Moltbook saga: Karpathy hyping up MoltBook https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2017370646767145419 Noon Jan 30 Doubles Down after "being accused of overhyping" Moltbookhttps://x.com/karpathy/status/2017442712388309406 9:39 PM Jan 30 Tweet showing Karpathy's (redacted) private information from a MoltBook security breachhttps://x.com/theonejvo/status/2017732898632437932 4:53PM Jan 31 Fortune quotes Karpathy saying MoltBook is "a dumpster fire, and I also definitely do not recommend that people run this stuff on their computers"https://fortune.com/2026/02/02/moltbook-security-agents-singularity-disaster-gary-marcus-andrej-karpathy/ Feb 2 Quote from Cory Doctorow about code failing well: https://pluralistic.net/2026/01/06/1000x-liability/ Excerpt from Cory's Mastodon with that quote in it: https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/115848576290992814 Mastodon from Carl to Cory telling him I'm going to use that quote (which he boosted): https://mastodon.social/@carlbrown/115867074293449215 Article on Claude 4.6 being good at finding bugs with fuzzing: https://red.anthropic.com/2026/zero-days/ Reference to it from Computer Security Guru Bruce Schneier: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2026/02/llms-are-getting-a-lot-better-and-faster-at-finding-and-exploiting-zero-days.html Older paper on LLMs being good at fuzzing prior to this new claim about claude 4.6: https://arxiv.org/html/2508.01750v1 Falsehoods programmers believe about names from Patio11: https://img.sauf.ca/pictures/2025-10-23/61fb6db44e7173cd9318753c955f7dda.pdf Same kind of article, but this one is about time instead of names (Carl said he was wrong in that Partick/Patio11 didn't write this one, but it's worth passing along): https://infiniteundo.com/post/25509354022/more-falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-time Article with discussion of ageism in tech with the Zuckerberg quote Carl was thinking of: https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenkotler/2015/02/14/is-silicon-valley-ageist-or-just-smart/ Book on (interpersonal) networking that Carl recommends: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/227558/never-eat-alone-expanded-and-updated-by-keith-ferrazzi-and-tahl-raz/ And another one: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/105512/dig-your-well-before-youre-thirsty-by-harvey-mackay/ Carl's video on how AdTech is fracturing Society: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmYXyWbis9w Carl's Website: https://internetofbugs.com/ Community news section: freeCodeCamp just published a comprehensive course that will teach you the fundamental concepts, protocols, and architectures of computer networking...

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